The Old Adam Lives!

2009 ELCA Churchwide Assembly blog

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   centralityofthegospel, on August 27, 2009 at 1:40 pm said:

   I posted there.

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   theoldadam, on August 27, 2009 at 1:46 pm said:

   Thanks, Jon.

   I did too, but my comments may not make it through the screening process.

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   Elephantschild, on August 27, 2009 at 2:06 pm said:

   It seems like most of the commentators there who are speaking against the CWA assembly’s vote are those who have already left the ELCA or now plan to do so immediately.

   One of the supporting comments states:

   “Perhaps our young people will return to our churches because we have put our words of love, tolerance, and acceptance into action.

   That has not been the case in any other denomination that decided to normalize the sin of homosexuality. In fact, the exact opposite has happened, and those denominations have continued to decline even faster than before the change was made. The Episcopal Church is the shining example of this trend.

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   Patrick, on August 27, 2009 at 6:18 pm said:

   Bishop Hanson’s words and eloquence is clear… what is not so clear is what has actually happened here.

   The ELCA did not bring into the fold people who were estranged and separated by this vote… that occurred 2000 years ago at the cross. We poor sinners (gay, straight, transgendered etc.) were brought near through the blood of Christ… it is not something subject to a vote.

   What actually did occur was a vote to bring near and sanctify a behavior that is clearly not sanctioned by scripture. If there is some new evidence that the interpretation of the church for 2000 years has been wrong, that has not been made evident.

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   Jim Robertson, on August 27, 2009 at 7:21 pm said:

   fortiter recuso – I strongly protest. What ELCA has done has destroyed the church just like the Episcopal Church did.

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   centralityofthegospel, on August 28, 2009 at 3:28 am said:

   My post went through on the ELCA blog. What kind of heresy did you spaek steve/ 🙂

   Here is the Missouri Synods response to the ELCA. The LCMS may experience some church growth, IMO.

   http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=15620

   Here is an excerpt from the LCMS:

   Doctrinal decisions adopted already in 2001 led the LCMS, in sincere humility and love, to declare that we could no longer consider the ELCA “to be an orthodox Lutheran church body” (2001 Res 3-21A). Sadly, the decisions of this past week to ignore biblical teaching on human sexuality have reinforced that conclusion. We respect the desire to follow conscience in moral decision making, but conscience may not overrule the Word of God.

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