We are all alike.



Pastor Patrick Thurmer makes his case, quite convincingly I might add:




You’ll have your pants pulled down….but you’ll chuckle a bit as it is happening. 

You’ll see what I mean.




Thanks, Pastor Pat.


And thanks to flickr and Michaela Nico, for the photo.







‘I Love Jesus’…Oh Really?


Here’s one that I think you will like. (unless you actually believe that you bring something to the table of God’s grace, besides your sin) :







Thank you, Pastor Patrick Thurmer, of  Living-Faith-Church,- Cape-Coral, Florida






‘How You Doin’?’

Goodfellas (1990) by Cine&TV_fan

Here’s a sermon from our friend, Pastor Patrick Thurmer of

 Living-Faith-Church in Cape Coral, FL.

Good stuff, Pastor Pat.  Thanks!





 click here >   How-You-Doin?


If you think you’ll skip this one…faghettaboutit!




And thanks to flickr and Cine&TV_ fan, for the photo.







“I heard myself saved”

When I hear God’s Word proclaimed… both the law which shows me my need and drives me to despair and the gospel which meets my need and gives me life, I find myself believing it.  It isn’t a decision on my part, it simply happens.  I didn’t believe, then I found myself believing after the hearing of the message of Christ. 

That “experience” of hearing myself saved, occurred at my baptism and it occurs regularly when I hear the gospel.  It is life to me.  I love to hear it again and again.

I’m told that there is an old word or expression in Norwegian that means just that: “I heard myself saved”.  I don’t know that word,  but I’d love to learn about it.  (If anyone knows it, I’d love to hear from you)

This thought has significance to me in these ways:
It impacts my idea of evangelism.  There is enormous freedom in it.  Evangelism no longer carries with it the idea of needing to convince or somehow persuade unbelievers to decide or accept or respond in a particular way to God’s redemption story.  My only responsibility is simply to proclaim His word, both the Law and the Gospel.  It does it’s work.  I don’t always know when it is doing its work to hearers and that’s okay.  I simply proclaim the message God has given us to proclaim. 

In much of ‘evangelicalism’ today, there is a western idea imposed upon the gospel that demands a purpose driven, decision making, evidence showing, prosperity producing, particular way of doing evangelism.  I think that way works against the gospel because it clouds the message and makes hearers feel more like a project than recipients of the best news they have ever heard. 

“Conversion” may look much different than what we’ve been conditioned by our ‘evangelical culture’ to expect.  It may look more like a nod, a smile, or a simple sigh of relief.  I think many of the passages of scripture used to tell people exactly what they need to say and do to be saved, were meant to be assurances for believers rather than a club to beat unbelievers.  Indicative statements have been made into imperatives. 

My experience in ministry has shown this whole idea to be true.  I’ve known many individuals with a disdain for Christ who, after hearing the message of the gospel again and again, found themselves eventually resonating with Him.  I didn’t always know when it happened, it just did.  The good news had its effect.  That makes me want to tell it more and more.

All of this doesn’t fit nicely into a graph or a year end annual report on numbers of conversions.  It doesn’t jive with our bottom line ways of thinking but I’m confident that in God’s economy none are missed.

                                                                                                     Patrick Thurmer


Thank you, Pastor Pat Thurmer.








What can we offer to God?

The Pharisee and the Publican_Luk 18:11-13 by Jesus Reigns

Pastor Pat Thurmer leads his congregation in their confession of sin at

Living-Faith-Church, Cape Coral, FL.


click here> Confession-of-sin




You know, this mp3 audio clip is under 3 minutes in length…and it’s so good I have listened to it about 3 times already, and I just got it from Pastor Pat about 15 minutes ago.

I suggest saving it to a favorites file or somewhere you can easily get to it, and then listening to it often.

 It (this Word of law and gospel) will cut you off at the knees…and then it will raise you again to new life, by the grace of God.


Thank you, Pastor Pat.


And thanks to flickr and Jesus Reigns, for the photo.


What would the world look like?

Sibiu Cathedral (Jesus washes Peter's feet) by Fergal Claddagh

What would it look like if we actually lived the way Jesus commands us to?

Here’s Pastor Mark’s Maundy Thursday sermon for 2011.

( I messed up the begining so there’s a silence for about 20 seconds or so at the start of it) 


click here>   Maundy Thursday Sermon for 2011


Thanks to flickr and Fergal Claddagh, for the photo.

DON’T tamper with the Word!

Joel Osteen at Yankee Stadium, 04/25/09 by Gary Dunaier

Do we have the right, as Christians, to critique other Chrsitians as to their version of what the Christian faith is all about?

Absolutely we do!

Listen in to find out why this is important.


Tampering with the Word #1                   Tampering with the Word #7

Tampering with the Word #2                   Tampering with the Word #8

Tampering with the Word #3                   Tampering with the Word #9

Tampering with the Word #4                   Tampering with the Word #10

Tampering with the Word #5                   Tampering with the Word #11

Tampering with the Word #6


Tampering with the Word entire class


Listen to one or two of them, or..if so inclined, take in the entire class.


Thanks to flicker and Gary Dunaier, for the photo.