A differnt kind of worship service (for many)

I think this is a very well done video. 

 

I’d like to look into what it would take to have something like this done for the congregation of which I am a member.

 

Question for non-Lutherans, ‘Does this church creep you out with all the traditional worship practices that are shown in the video?’

‘Is it too counter-cultural for you…too Catholic looking?’

‘Would you ever consider going to a worship service at a church like this?’

 

Thanks.

 

Hat tip to Curtis over at  The-Lutheran-Baptist.

Thank you, Curtis! 

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10 Responses

  1. The video had one of the things I missed the most from my LCMS church… The song “this is the feast of Victory for our God”. On the other hand I would have liked to have heard the piano at least once during the video. Apologies, but this was a major reason when we moved we decided to not pursue too many Lutheran Churches but pursue “sound gospel-centric doctrine” and to not place as much emphasis on the musings of “style” .

    There is a fine line between traditional and cultural/counter cultural and the concept sometimes just depends on what side of the fence you are sitting. Luther was quite a trend-setter when it came to style 500 years ago. Moving preaching out of Latin and into German and Martin Luther had quite a contemporary affect on music of his day. The difference was that he did not have a music industry looking to make money in that day and the music he wrote was founded in scripture and worshipping God.

    My .02c worth,

    • Ok we should not place emphasis on style. But it appears your major objection to the worship services at Lutheran churches is the lack of piano?!

      It is more than just style to have a cross procession. That is Gospel centered. Recalling the promises of Baptism is Gospel centered. Confession and Absolution is also Gospel centered. Sermons about sin and Jesus crucified for sinners is Gospel centered. Kneeling for the Body and Blood of Jesus is Gospel centered. etc. So it is much more than merely style when the Cross of Jesus is the focal point from beginning to end.

  2. I find it interesting that people can have such a “fluid” approach to floating in and around amongst denominations. Granted, as a cradle Lutheran, maybe I don’t (want to) know any differently. However, it just sounds weird to me that people shop around church denominations based on preferences for stylistics, etc. Maybe one year Lutheran, maybe next year Methodist, skip to Pentecostal, or what-have-you.
    What causes that? Lack of adherence to any confession of faith other than “the gospel”? If gospel-reductionism is the cause, it would seem that you would have to tolerate the potential for much error in what you receive otherwise.

    I move frequently and so have to find a new church home. I might try a few Lutheran churches when I set down, but I never get the itch to switch to any other brand. The times I have visited others, even Anglican and high Presbyterian, I was disappointed that the gospel wasn’t even there.

    I have been at high liturgical (smells and bells) Lutheran congregations all the way to the happy-slappy “de-branded” (“Crypto-Lutheran”) contemporary groups, and many in-between. (Sometimes, you just get what you get.) I can get comfortable in most settings, but mostly in the middle of the range.

    One pet peeve I had with one congregation I was at was that they had a really nice, but small, pipe organ, but they never used it, except for times when the electronic piano player worship leader was on vacation! Piano is OK as an occasional element in the service, but just can’t hold a candle to a pipe organ for leading the Divine Service.

  3. Steve,

    Just another thought here, maybe your use of the word “traditional” to describe the Divine Service in the video here just won’t computing with anyone outside Lutherans and some other litugical protestants. I can just imagine an EvangiBaptiCostal thinking, “What does he mean by ‘traditional’? I didn’t see a tent revival in that video.” More likely, they see this and probably think ‘dark ages’ or ‘druid.’

    I don’t know if someone completely unfamiliar with liturgical worship seeing this would make the connection between “stability” and the ancient practice of the Christian Divine Service. It is probably so completely foreign and there is not a lot of explanation of what is going on there in those scenes. To such people, it might as well be some Wiccan thing. Maybe they might be interested to try it out of sheer curiousity. I don’t know.

    But at least they put in some scenes of a typical Lutheran church potluck. Maybe that will be the biggest attraction. Everyone likes food.

  4. Hmmm…kinda like: Oh, OH! That’s my neighbor…I didn’t recognize him in the WalMart, just in his own backyard…*: ) Do you think you would recognize him at the mall?

  5. When the little child within me wants to go to church, I seek out a liturgical service. I was raised pre- vatican II Roman Catholic so processions, incense, candles, etc. are a part of me. I love contemporary worship, but there are times when nothing but an organ, a choir singing traditional hymns, and a procession will do.

  6. PL,

    I think I know what you mean. I was raised a Catholic, also.

    I think that is why I always felt more uncomfortable with a modern style, non-liturgical, non-traditional service.

    Thanks, my friend.

    – Steve

  7. I also miss the procession at the start of the Divine Service. They cut it out to shave a few minutes and because it takes too many extra participants for the crucifer, acolytes, censor, choir, etc.

    I think it is a symptom that people who want to cut parts out of the liturgy just don’t “get it” why we do it. The procession is a wonderful symbol of The Word coming among us to greet God’s People as we gather for worship in teh Divine Service.

    Even if the procession consists of just the Crucifer and the Pastor, that would be better than just the pastor starting at the front of the nave and kicking off with the invocation followed by an opening hymn.

    • There are many forms of worship that touch each of us in a special way…God asks us to come in spirit and in truth and meet Him at the foot of the cross where we receive forgiveness and LIFE! There is no specific place time or format decreed, just faith in what Jesus has done and this God, Himself, provides. Because we are all individual we find special comfort in special parts of the worship service that will be part of us forever…marks that have been left by the Holy Spirit on our hearts.

      • The Augsburg Confession explains that “we (Lutherans) keep the Mass.” Pastor Peters at Pastoral Meanderings has a good post about this today. Certainly for Lutherans, this is not an “anything goes/do as you like” approach to worship and the Divine Service.

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